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M'uru
May 15th, 2008, 10:28 PM - by Praetorian
What a fight. Dead on the first pull tonight after a series of close calls and disconnect wipes last night. Amazing job by all.



Loot:
[Muramasa] to Hvitserk
[Robes of Faltered Light] ----> [Robes of Ghostly Hatred] to Siawyn
[Harness of Carnal Instinct] to Arkenphal
[Sin'dorei Band of Dominance] to Furiotoo

(Congrats and thanks also to everyone who put in serious time wiping to this bastard over the past two weeks but was unable to attend tonight -- Felgarr, Lailla, Zoid, Snowcrasher, Gilliam, Cryingrogue, Wodin, and more.)

As has been stated by every guild so far, this fight really is just perfectly tuned. I'm astounded that Blizzard got it so right with so little PTR testing, and it gives me really high hopes for Kil'Jaeden. As a guild, we spent 32 hours (8 nights, 4 hours a night) learning this fight, and that's by far, by far more than any other fight in TBC so far (18 hours for Twins, 12 for Kael, and <10 for everything else). And the best part is that it really isn't random. There are so many strats and setups that can work, and it's just about finding the right one for your class composition, refining it, and then refining it some more. I knew we were going to kill him tonight going into the raid, and I was right. It'll be easily repeatable next week, but that doesn't mean the fight is "easy" by any means.

And no, I don't consider the pushback change to be a meaningful "nerf" so much as it fixes an imbalance in the fight. It did help us because we run 3 hunters for basically everything, so it brought them more in line with their performance on other fights as compared to other classes. Maybe the flood of dozens of new kills will come tonight and tomorrow and prove me wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the fight is just as hard to learn and execute this week as it was last week.
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Eredar Twins
Apr 17th, 2008, 2:24 AM - by Praetorian


Intense fight, definitely the hardest in TBC so far. My only gripe is probably healer-stacking, though we did it with 10 and 1 spriest and I'm pretty sure we could swing 9 and 2 spriests without too much trouble, so maybe it's not too bad. It's been a long, long time since we've had a fight that we spent more than 1-2 full nights of wipes on and not come away with a kill. It's definitely an answer to the question, "Can Blizzard make a fight that will truly challenge top guilds but still be doable and not unfair?"

Congrats to all my guildmates on a job wonderfully done, and apologies to the many excellent folks that spent most of the past week on the sidelines due to the lack of DPS slots.

Edit: Just to clarify, I definitely do not think that this fight should be nerfed. We'll be doing this with 8 healers in a couple of months. We brought 10 healers to our first Shahraz kill, too, if I recall. It's fine. There's no real way to reduce the nature of this raid damage without just making the fight inherently much less dangerous.
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Ok, now what?
Mar 31st, 2008, 1:15 AM - by Praetorian


Really fun fight, kind of like fighting Sapphiron inside Heigan's room. I'd say it's about as tough as Brutallus, just in a very different way (execution, not numbers). Very well-tuned, too. Looking forward to seeing what's waiting on the other side of the gate.

Great job all, and condolences to Pachwa for having to replace the classic Illidan shield with an ugly POS.
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Sunwell.
Mar 28th, 2008, 3:31 AM - by Praetorian
Finally, some new content. As with Naxxramas almost two years ago, it's exciting to see Blizzard demonstrating a real understanding of the limits of high-end raiders, along with a willingness to push players to those limits. I suspect that what we've seen so far is just the beginning, and the steady progression and variety moving from Kalecgos to Brutallus to Felmyst bodes well for what is less well-known ahead. Looking forward to it.



Speaking of tightly-tuned fights, allow me to add my voice to the chorus asking for Brutallus to remain as he now stands. He is the essence of a "gear check" and changing him even a little would defeat the purpose of the fight. We did him with a completely ordinary raid composition (no stacking -- exactly the same sort of raid makeup we've routinely taken through BT and other zones), and in fact the only real difference between our series of single-digit wipes yesterday and our ten-seconds-before-berserk kill tonight was that we'd been trying to "stack" yesterday instead of running with a more natural setup to which we've been accustomed for a year now. Congrats and thanks to our hunters for defying the huntard reputation that plagues the class, our healers for a fantastic job on a stressful fight, and all the rest.

WWS parse, for the curious: Wow Web Stats

Obviously we killed Kalecgos on Tuesday too but I think everyone can live without seeing a screenshot of us standing around in an empty plaza.
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We are recruiting...
Mar 17th, 2008, 11:19 AM - by Praetorian
...nothing at all!

For reference, our application can be found here: http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t23094-w...g_one_warlock/
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