Kamonji

Either I am a idiot, or somehting is wrong for the link on my side. I still cannot get teh spread sheet to work.

 

Highlatencyhunter

Hello everyone,

First of all i registered to this website as soon as i knew about it which was yesterday and i couldnt go over all the 100+ pages of hunters discussion threads so i thought i will make this post so u can comment, help, or redirect me to whatever will help me. I saw cheek'ys spreadsheet excel sheet but i didn't really know how to use it. I will post the questions that i really want to know their answers after an introduction paragraph about my character so plz read it carefully.

As u might notice from the title i am suffering from 500-1k ms (high latency) and around 5-15fps from the first day i started world of warcraft. I've been playing since 2 years. I'm a survival specced hunter atm with 7/20/34 spec, i have DST and 4+ pieces of T6 and all of my other pieces are Bt + MH items. I'm using the /cast/cast macro including the kill command and lightning breath of my serpent in the macro. I usually spam this macro while raiding especially on boss fights and i noticed the clippings of autoshots which i think is resulting from my high latency and fps issues and maybe a bit from the macro design. I was doing fine in all the raids MH,BT,and 1st boss in sunwell (kalegos) knowing that my dps i was doing isnt that good since i can do much much more with my current gear but since my latency was very high i cant really do anything about it unless i get a much better connection and a new graphic card for imporving my fps.

However the annoying part started now, my guild is currently at brutallus and i'm the only survival hunter in the guild and they always take me to raids (Was and still a very core/active member since the beginning + im a very good boost for the melee dpsers). The max dps i ever reached on all the brutallus tries we did was 1800dps with my current 500-1k latency and 5-15 fps and usually 1600dps on all other tries while i was in a group of main tank 1 (prot warrior), main tank 2 (feral druid), and 2 resto druids which isnt really interesting for me. Now i know a hunter with my gear must be making an easy 2k+ dps. This is the armory link of my current gear so u can check it out The World of Warcraft Armory before answering my questions u might notice that my spec is 0/20/41 but that was just for yesterday where i tried to check if i can increase my dps on brutallus with it but my spec is usually 7/20/34 and don't worry about my 80 hit rating cause i have the neck from supremus (Choker of endless nightmares) which caps my hit rating when i use it. The questions i am seeking to get answered if possible are:

1. Is the macro i am using the correct one for my current auto shot speed/spec knowing that it automatically gets me to 1:1 shot rotation when i get hasted and gets back to 2:1 when im not hasted. Do you also suggest to use manual weaving since i have high latency instead of the macro cause it will just result in more and much more clippings?

2. Should i keep using my current spec with DST or?

3. Is it even possible to do more dps than 1600-1800 with my brutallus group setup and my current latency/fps issues :p?

4. do u think i must bind my macro to the mouse wheel or a keyboard cursor for better results or it doesnt matter?


Thankyou all for reading my case and i hope to hear from you some helpful/constructive comments soon.

 

littlejim

awesome, meloeth and all those who contributed to this project u earn +9999999999999(u get the picture) points in the book of life. big thanks.

 

jfred007

Alright here we go again,

I would like to know which is trully optimal. Sword/Sword or Fist/Sword -- Keeping in mind that I would put TPs in both Specializations for Fist/Sword and for Swords I'd have vile poisons.

Does the extra attack from Sword Specialization occur just has often when you are fist/sword?

And Does the 5% crit from Fists..apply to swords as well?

If I have further questions, I will posted/edit again.

Thank you,

Eyerate

 

Buliwyf

I think this is relevant to this thread. Your post sig flyingtoastr. Where did it come from, and do you have a link to the rest of stuff it was taken from?

 

gustave777

Quick question .... does Icy Veins also effect the global cooldown


Thanks

 

Nomoney

On an equally geared warrior and rogue what class would benefit more from a warglave. After reading this post I thought about it and if a well geared warrior has no problem burning his rage then it doesn't seem like the dps on a warglave would benefit him half as much as it would for a rogue. First time posting, and any input would help.

 

bimmian

@zork

That looks great. Do the orbs actually have the swirly smoke animation, or just static?

 

Guyog

Thanks allot for all the suggestions guys , I will try these out !!

And as for Relwin sending me a infraction for signing my post , well if you have a problem signing yours that is fine but you do not delegate whether I sign mine sir and if that is a problem then just remove my membership and my e-mail from your forum .

Guy

PS - it is my choice if I wish to sign my post Relwin , not yours , I am not worried about using my name to sign a post and never will be , if someone wants me then I urge him to come and get me but better know the cat before you grab his tail huh .

 

Tune

Didn't see it anywhere in the thread but I'd like to know how much 1 haste rating would be worth in healing.

 

cow8111

i'm the only dps war for my guild so i go with slam ms.
im currently hit capped with 2 t6 (gloves and shoulders) and the rest are BT and MH stuff with the exception of the badge bow.
now i've had t6 helm in bag for some time now (and i keep it in there 'cause i wont be hit capped otherwise), and should have chest soon. but if i don helm and chest for the 4 pc bonus, i'll have a huge ass dent in my hit (brings me to like 100ish or so).

question is is that even worth it? 'cause it means i'll have to use hit food and hit gems too.

with 4 pc i should hit the soft arp cap as well.

 

Vlaide

hmmm

 

Genghiskhan

I have been reading alot on the forums about hunters. Me and the guild are at the kara stage and I was told that I don't do enough dps. I'm spec 41/20/0 and my gear is not that bad.
The World of Warcraft Armory

I use this macro:
#showtooltip Auto Shot
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill command
/cast Steady Shot
/script UIErrorFrame:Clear()

In combination with arcane shot while healing my pet. I have the aspect of the hawk and use m hunters mark all the time.

Can anyone give me some advise on improving my playing

Thanks

 

DukesX

i am a bm hunter currently not yet 70 but in the high 60's and i was wondering what balance is the best for the int/agi. i dropped most int mail to pick up agi leather to level with but now my friends are telling me i am a dumbass and that i need a better balance of int. the problem is that i have to get rogue gear in order to keep my agi/crit chance/hit rating in order for me to have it at all becausse the mail gear in isntances and most quests are +spell damage and healing and that is a waste for me. so which one should i choose and what is the best int balance?

 

IzusUD

I have a question about DW hit cap. Is the cap really 28% and if so that would be 442 (441.58) is this the correct?
(if my numbers are right)
Hit Rating caps for DW are:

* 442 hit rating with 0 points in Precision
* 426 hit rating with 1 point in Precision
* 411 hit rating with 2 points in Precision
* 395 hit rating with 3 points in Precision

What would the ideal numbers that a DW warrior needs to hit to get the best results for your hit points?

 

Bloodtear

Seeing the origin if the previous few posters, could be that is enabled for EU only at the moment.

 

itami11

I found myself in a dilemma now about haste socketing. I'm sitting at around 1100 spell dmg unbuffed, and i have 65 spell haste so what i'm noticing is that my starfires are reduced to 2.88 seconds and i still have the same is-mf-3x starfire rotation, so in that point i have to wait maybe 0.5seconds due to my haste in order to reapply my dots and haste seems rather useless because i can't squeeze another starfire in this rotation. So is my logic here wrong or should i wait with spell haste socketing until i get a decent amount of passive spell haste from gear?

 

Temis

With an eye towards the itemization available in very late Sunwell, what are you feral tanks (the collective you, here) planning on doing with regard to maintaining T6 set bonuses and uncrittability?

Based on the itemization we have available, there are some difficult choices. [Collar of the Pit Lord] and [Ring of Hardened Resolve] are both clearly outstanding; [Crimson Paragon's Cover] and [Ring of the Stalwart Protector] are excellent, but both lack anti-crit compared to lower ilvl alternatives. All the Sunwell "tier 6.5" pieces are exceptional, and the new T6 pieces are very good, but again [Thunderheart Wristguards] have no anti-crit in a slot ferals have often used to achieve uncrittability.

Personally, I'm leaning towards dropping 4T6 on the assumption that the armor penetration on the new pieces will more than make up for the lost swipe threat, using all 5 pieces of Sunwell armor, [Thunderheart Waistguard] and [Thunderheart Treads], and the [Guardian's Dragonhide Bracers] primarily for uncrittability. In addition, given the very high base stamina on the Sunwell tanking items, I'm planning on heavily stacking agility in my gems.

Has anybody worked through the various permutations here and come up with a mathematically optimal full endgame set?

 

Mythirdnut

on my lock i just look at gruul and he instantly falls over crying.

but seriously, get the affliction locks become destruction with DS, get their crit up and hammer the crap out of gruul as a fire mage with a difference, make sure they use soul shatter as often as possible

personally i choose felhunter to sacrifice (3% mana per 4 sec) for the less life taps (less life taps = more GCD for damage spells)

 

Mordicant

First I must say that I love the article and that I thank you for posting it, but I have some questions (which will follow after a brief explaination).

In addition to being a rogue in gruuls/mags/starting SSC, I am also a lover of the mutilate spec. Although I hear everywhere that combat swords is the most dps for a raiding rogue, and I see myself doing more damage in the raid with combat swords using (im not sure how to link items) the aldor exalted [Vindicator's Brand] and [Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade] both with mongoose, I find myself doing more overall damage in the raid against bosses as mutilate using [Malchazeen] with mongoose and [Emerald Ripper] with executioner. This confused me for a while and I started to think about my combat cycles. I have T4 2pc and I can easily keep up a 1s/5r cycle as combat swords, ocasionally only doing a 4 CP rupture. As Mutilate I will generally open with a garrote, shiv, and then mutilate into a 3-5s/3-5r/3-5e. (I'm sorry I don't have exact values, but I do know that my overall damage is higher as I can top the damage meter on gruul/mag and mutilate and not as combat)

My questions are as follows: 1) Do you have an idea as to why mutilate is doing more damage in this case (I use the same gear save the weapons for both specs) as opposed to virtually every case presented in intelligent forums showing that mutilate does less damage than swords? 2) I noticed that for the combat cycles for all builds you included a different cycle for T4 2pc., but not for mutilate. Do you have any ideas about mutilate cycles with T4 2pc.?

Thank you for your time.

 

Linedan

Hi guys...fantastic helpful forum here.

I've got a 70 dwarf hunter, currently 7/45/9 MM, that I've played off and on for a long time. Here's his Armory:

The World of Warcraft Armory

Since I'm on an RP server, he's got a couple of RP things going--mainly that he uses only guns (he's a dwarf, boomsticks are cooler!) and he's had the same crag boar for a pet since level 10. I want to keep him marks, or a marks hybrid, but it's hard. He's massively underperforming, especially in light of the fact that I've got another 70 hunter, a belf that's 41/20/0 BM, and she blows him away despite the fact he's got superior gear...which isn't saying much.

Right now he does not have a regular raid group, he occasionally subs into Kara and Gruul's raids. So his gear, aside from the two-piece T4, is sucktastic.

Basically, the poor guy needs Hunter Makeover in a big way--gear, spec, everything. I'm willing to pick up another pet, especially since the boar charge nerf seems to make it impossible for his pig to hold agro anymore while grinding. I'm willing to do pretty much anything at this point except take him BM or SV. Beltar has always been marks, and marks or marks hybrid is where I would like to leave him, knowing that he's never going to be pushing through T6 or maybe even T5 content.

Any help that you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated. Just think of him as a fixer-upper, I guess?

 

Ausn

General Question:

In PvP:

haste > +healing or +healing > haste?

 

kaleb75

Well, glad to be here. First of all I'm weak with math and theorycrafting hence my signing on here....to improve on that weakness. I love my hunter. I am very frustrated though as I have absorbed as much info as I can, geared my hunter up as well as I can so far for a 'casual raider' (pretty much NO 25 mans, mostly just Kara and ZA right now) and I still think I must be doing something wrong as I see lots of hunters claim signifcantly higher dps than me with less gear and such. I have adopted the 3:2 shot macro and love it. However sitting at an attack speed of 1.97, 1958 attack power(with AotH up and Abacus of VOdds equipped), 125 hit and 29.17% Crit, Recount is telling me I average @ 750-900 dps on Kara and ZA bosses. Does this not seem low? Any suggestions or help on what I may or may not be doing correctly or have missed in fishing in these froums would help greatly. Thanks everyone for reading this if you are I will continue to try nd work through the class mechanics threads/posts and attempt to learn as much as I can. Cheers.

 

jr1551

ok i do agree a well spec mm can put out a lot of dps but they will not compare to my mage who unbuffed has 1300 SD and when i pop my trinkets hit 1500 SD how ever bm in my guild do how ever come close to our dps

 

Inwë

Id just like to say about the imp FF talent...

We are expected to be spell hit cap. Why arent other classes? Say you get used to the moonkin with imp FF in the raid and start replacing hit gear. Sure some people will hold on to the hit gear.
Say the moonkin cant make it to a raid.
My point is it is not that hard to get hit for any class in this game. Or gem for it if need be.